the aclu seriously until they defend the guy who made the video that caused -- that did not cause the benghazi attack. >> bob: this is -- >> dana: they let him rot in jail. >> bob: this is as clear a violation of church and state i've ever seen. >> eric: your issue is the church part of it? >> bob: yeah. i wish they would go to church. it's great. >> dana: can i have the book the loneliness. nobody agrees with me. i have not convinced anybody. >> bob: let me give you a thought about that. sit right here, you will understand what it feels like. >> andrea: it's true. judges should have discretion but i think the discretion -- >> dana: that's the word i'm looking for. >> andrea: he is crossing the line. this is not adequate punishment. >> dana: that is right. >> bob: coming up, 71 years ago today japanese attacked pearl harbor and killed thousands of americans. a new movie hits theaters today that honors veterans of world warii. we'll do the same when we come back. ♪ ♪ >>> december 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy. >> dana: today is the 71st anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor.